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Debatewise debate DEBATE: FACEBOOK IS JUST A FAD THAT WILL PASS

Before Facebook there was MySpace. Before MySpace there was Friendster. Somewhere in-between came Friends Reunited. And at some point in the future Facebook will fade into obscurity. Which is good.





Debatewise debateFACEBOOK IS JUST A FAD THAT WILL PASS


The Web is something rich and strange and Facebook is not


Back in 1988 before the Web arrived we used to play a lot of image based games around the internet, passing encoded images back and forth and basically working hard to make some sense of this dark network where no-one could see anyone else.
From that point on for me the internet and the web have been a rich and strange playground where each new person, each new application, each new network, added something unknowable to the sum total of where we worked and played.
Facebook doesn’t really do any of that. It’s a nice tidy ‘burb where everyone has more or less the same house, same garden, same car, same attitude.
Sure, we can all add friends and join networks and add applications, but it’s always clear that there is no curtain behind which strange things might lurk. Facebook is the uber controlled environment – useful and wanted by many, but not pregnant with potentials.

Facebook is more about the known than the unknown – and that’s a good thing. Who but the most insecure of us cares about having 429 ‘friends’, most of whom we wouldn’t talk to twice if we met them in real life.
Facebook provides a way of connecting to the people you already know – but for one reason or another don’t stay in regular contact with. As we get older, settle down, have kids and spend more time at work, those little catch up chats or times hanging out with friends dwindle to almost nothing. That’s not to say you don’t like the people you don’t see as much, just that they’re not in your immediate circle and the genuine desire to ‘meet up soon’ just never gets realised.
Facebook allows us to keep in contact with them through their status updates, when they add pictures, when someone they know tags them in a picture, when they add an app and ask a question – or in a hundred other ways.
This is a way of connecting to them and of ensuring we know what they’re up to. It is therefore easier to send a quick note about their daughter or wish them a happy birthday. These small things break down the distance between us, they make the barrier of getting in touch smaller to cross – and they make the real world meetings more easy to make happen.
furthermore, facebook lacks clarity in who you are actually becoming friends with


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There are only so many new people


Facebook is experiencing a huge wave of migration. This is held up as proof of the genius of Zuckerberg, and indeed in many ways they have played a blinder.
From a closed College based network, they have taken a gamble to open up to anyone and everyone and seen it pay off bigtime. The viral nature of Facebook is supreme, with member get member raised to a new artform. I’ve read dozens of articles about how all of someone’s friends have arrived in Facebook in the very recent past, usually in a great splurge of arrivals as a single outrider reports back to the group that, yup, it looks safe in here and there are lush pastures for the cattle.
Then everyone else takes up residence, and as they overlap with other social groups, the process repeats itself. There is something engaging and exciting about arriving in an easy to understand social network, with tools to explore and people to Poke (ooh, the underlying sexual thrill of it all, it reminds me of my first disco, I didn’t know what that was all about either, but by God it turned me on).
Face it, when someone invites you to join Facebook and be their friend, its a cheap thrill to sign up and be that friend.

If people want a social networking site there are millions, faceparty, hi5, bebo, myspace etc… facebook IS a fad that will pass, as some person eventually will outdo it, one of these pages will take all it’s features and make something better, as myspace has done with bebo, as bebo has done with faceparty, etc..
Anyone could log onto myspace, and minus a few ‘pokes’, they can pretty much do the same, look at their friend’s status updates, chat to their friends etc. Why should facebook be THE social networking site?
And also, myspace is the site that seems to get all the hype for getting musicians noticed. So what’s the fad for bands? Myspace!


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Debatewise debateFACEBOOK IS JUST A FAD THAT WILL PASS


There just are no sophisticated tools in Facebook


I’m used to some level of sophistication in my toolset. I don’t mind using your online tools, after all, it’s your community. But ffs, all I can do in my Groups is write on the wall? And then you can write on the same wall back to me. I can upload photos? Every time someone does something, I get sent an email without the content.
There just are no sophisticated tools in Facebook – everything is like a shallow version of what we’re used to on the outside. For sure, the apps have started to put some depth back into the system, but it’s hard to imagine that we’ll en masse abandon our email and our IM and our other contact and memory tools and use the stubs that Facebook offers. Not for a while anyway, we’ll get disillusioned and wonder off as our attention drifts.

Getting an email without the content was annoying, though this has now changed, and there are bound to be other parts of the site which don’t work as well as tools which are specifically designed for the job.
But if there is a demand for features not currently provided someone out there will provide them. And some of the features Facebook does provide, such as tagging photos, inviting others to events, and garnering support for a great cause, are great for a social network.
It’s also worth considering the value of Facebook as a social aggregation tool for non-techies. Sure you’re used to some sophisticated tools, but the majority of internet users aren’t. They’re people with non-technical jobs who just want things to work. Facebook works without anyone leaving the comfort of a great UI and the safety blanket known as a privacy controls.


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Debatewise debateFACEBOOK IS JUST A FAD THAT WILL PASS


There are other colours


I know this will sound very shallow and pathetic, but I really can’t imagine living with #3b5998 only for the rest of my life. As someone who was working with the web when there was not even any right align, let alone fancy layouts or the CSS wonders we see today, it pains me to have to use such a limited interface.
With respect, it is the sort of interface that the East German government would have commissioned for their citizen network if they had lived to see in the true glory of the web. Where I come from we call this colour Navy Blue and with good reason, children grow up to hate it.
Allied to the fixed layout, 3b5998 is the antithesis of everything that design stands for and everything that the web has taught us – that we are individuals and that we make and remake our environment to work with our needs and desires.
Even Google, that great interface reducer, has relented and offered multiple funky interfaces to their start pages. So what’s with the fascist control freakery? Don’t you trust me to change things the way I like ‘em? Think I might, like, go mad with funky colours? So what, that’s my freedom.

Hmmmm, Facebook or Myspace which is the easiest to use? Given most people’s inability to create a readable web page I’m happy that Facebook restricts the look of its pages to one recognisable format.
Give people free reign over the look of their page and they’ll go the flashy, blinky, confused way of Myspace. And there are friends I’d rather keep than lose for the knowledge of what they think looks cool.


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Call that a network?


I live in Brighton & Hove, East Sussex, UK. So for some reason that’s my network. It has 54,384 members who, I guess, live in Brighton and Hove. The total population of Brighton is 247,820, which means my network contains approximately one sixth of the entire population of this town. There are only 117032 15 to 44 year olds, which means that almost 50% of them are members of my local network. Huh? I mean, this is some kind of groovy town, but I find that rather unlikely.
More to the point, what the hell am I supposed to do with a network that includes every single sentient being between the ages of fifteen and forty-five in my town? I see I can go to a costume making event at 2pm or GUILDFORD MONDAY NITE at 7pm (that’s Guildford, not Brighton, but hey). Popular in Brighton and Hove includes the facebook wide food fight and Brighton’s Largest Water Fight. The Discussion Board has 164 discussion topics, starting with ‘How Many Ways To Say I Love You?’, but frankly life’s too short. And then there’s The Wall. 754 posts starting with a bit of spam from Ben Williams.
To say the will to live deserted me at this point would be an exaggeration, but to say the will to live in Brighton and Hove fled my feeble frame just about sums it up. Why am I in this network? I am a sophisticated online denizen, I partake of and participate in hundreds of online societies and fora of all kinds. Some are good, some are bad, some are essential to life. But none are as depressingly pointless as this all consuming Brighton and Hove Network.
And yes, I know I can change my regional network, but what exactly would be the point of that? I quite like seeing my local friends’ faces peering out at me from the sidebar – but that’s not quite enough to make it worthwhile.
I guess this approach worked quite well when it was a college based network, but imagine what it is like to be a London or Shanghai network member – they’ve elevated inanity to a whole new level.

Facebook offers a unique perspective to social networking in that you can friend people you know and the people they know to an extent. I find Facebook most useful for college because it helps the organizations I’m a part of invite people to our events. I can also find out about other group’s events on campus and even join a greater cause to support Darfur, let’s say.
I’ve been able to keep in touch with people I went to kindergarten with! Granted most of them went to school with me since eighth grade, but it’s interesting to see where they are based on how they were way when (the 90s for us young folks). It’s cool to see how they’ve changed and how they’ve stayed the same. I’ve also been able to keep in touch with high school friends who I get to visit a few times a year back in California while I go to school in Philly. No matter what my url is I’m still unique. Having a long url with a combination of random numbers and letters doesn’t decrease individuality at all.
Sure I have a lot of friends I don’t really talk to and some I have never met, but at least it opens the door to a conversation: "Hey we’re Facebook friends, right?" In fact I was walking down the street yesterday, no joke, and I saw two of my friends with one of their friends. We’d never met, but we were Facebook friends through each other. It was great to meet the guy and get to know him in person as much as it is to get to know him over Facebook.
Basically the regional network lets you see people in the same one as you and helps people know where you’re from. I keep my network as Los Angeles even though I go to school in Philly. It lets my friends know where I’m from. High school and college networks help you know who that person is trying to friend you and if you actually know them from somewhere.
For now Facebook rocks. Let’s hope it doesn’t turn into another MySpace.


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Debatewise debateFACEBOOK IS JUST A FAD THAT WILL PASS


Gaining Revenue for Networking Sites is Extremely Difficult


Facebook, like MySpace, has not been able to successfully fund itself via advertisements. Click through rates are low, and MySpace has tried desperately to salvage funds from these ads. MySpace’s home page is filled with ads that most users don’t click on. Case in point: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/
feb2008/tc2008024_252834.htm?chan=search
Unless Facebook can gain revenue from ads it will suffer and possibly go bankrupt.

Facebook knows how old I am, what interests and hobbies I have, where I live, what my social network looks like and even what my educational and work history is. Are you telling me that’s not a potential goldmine for advertising?
Sure at the moment you get the generic breast enhancement and zany college t-shirt ads (or perhaps they’re not generic and facebook has decided that’s what I most want in life), which are going to generate as much response as any other banner and popup ads. But if Facebook can utilise it’s main resource, information, it will make Microsoft’s revenues look tiny.


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Facebook has been slow at incorprating music


It can be argued by some that Facebook has taken over from Myspace in terms of which is the better social networking site. Although this may be valid, there is one area in which Facebook is clearly lacking – and that is music. One of the main building blocks of Myspace is the close links with music – bands can have pages on which they are able to upload their music and reach out to a new crowd, members may add a song to their profile which gives other users more of an idea what the person likes and there is even the Myspace record label, getting physical copied of music out.
Although Facebook are now beginning to add pages for artists, these are not as advanced or as easily personalised and those on Myspace. Facebook has not been built on the foundation of music so it will be more difficult now to lure over music lovers from similar social networking sites (such as Myspace, PureVolume and Buzznet) that cater more to their tastes.

Admittedly it would seem that, thanks to it’s emphasis on music, Myspace is more popular amongst wanabe rock stars than Facebook.
On the other hand almost every university student in the UK (and I’m assuming the US, Australia etc) has a facebook account, in 10 to 15 years time that will mean that the majority of the best paid 50% of society in the English speaking world have facebook accounts. Let’s see which contributes better to the long term survival of the respective business models.


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People have been put off by scandals concerning identity fraud


If a ‘fad’, then Facebook’s passing will only have been hastened by the widespread concerns over identity theft as reported in the UK national press.
Perhaps more importantly, people have grown increasingly aware and scrutinising of Facebook’s capacity to allow potential employers to ‘snoop’ on one’s character as an employment suitability exercise. In short, people grow less and less eager to share their lives on the web, curiously perhaps because Facebook has been thrown open to wider and wider groups of people.

Privacy controls? My friends get annoyed that they can’t trawl idly through photos of me gurning drunkenly at a camera, but it means I’m less likely to get fired in the future.
And I also highly suspect that the potential employer snooping is a little bit of an urban myth, seeing as even if you drag all the privacy slider bars down to their minimum your profile is still only visible to those in your network. Just bad luck if you went to the same Uni as your prospective boss I guess.


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